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Jen
01-17-2009, 10:21 PM
A new deal under the controversial Foreshore and Seabed Act will allow Maori to ban other New Zealanders from some East Cape beaches. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4822522a7693.html)

The deal between the Crown and Ngati Porou would enable the iwi to close some coastal areas, veto use of the coast for commercial reasons, set fishing regulations, impose fines of up to $5000 on those who fail to comply, and change place names.



Seriously. What the fuck?

Black people can use the public beach, but I can't, because I'm too white. Seriously. I know the rest of the world generally doesn't care about New Zealand, but I think the UN and any other international organizations to which New Zealand is a member should condemn this.

Brad
01-17-2009, 10:49 PM
dont bother jen, everyone here is a closet whitey-racist.

Angel
01-18-2009, 01:54 AM
Actually, I'm more than happy to admit that that is fucked.
The foreshore issue is nothing new, though.

Twizz
01-18-2009, 02:48 AM
Tapu my arse.

Fuck that pisses me off, how they can declare something as tapu. So no-one can go on it, but they can lift the tapu whenever they seem fit.

I just can't fathom why there hasn't been an uproar about this yet, or most of the things the maori people try to do.

It's ridiculous.

Brad
01-18-2009, 03:01 AM
i stopped putting up with this kind of bullshit long ago. just do whatever you want and if someone picks a fight then good, thats all the excuse you need.

Twizz
01-18-2009, 03:02 AM
I would, but maoris always fight like pussies.

They don't know how to fight, then just prance around making the "kss kss kss" noise, then when you crack them in the jaw they get all their relatives to come and jump in.

Brad
01-18-2009, 03:05 AM
thats what knives and whatever guns you can get a hold of are for. evening the odds.

Twizz
01-18-2009, 03:06 AM
As much fun as that sounds, I'd like to stay out of prison.

Brad
01-18-2009, 03:10 AM
know the law dude. read up on it, if someone punches you then it's legal to kill them with whatever you got, within a reasonable time frame, cops all over make up there own bullshit RULES but theres only one system of Law, and a few new laws implemented allow you to sue cops if they get uppity.

Angel
01-18-2009, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by Brad
if someone punches you then it's legal to kill them with whatever you got

...maybe in South Africa...

Kirtan
01-18-2009, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by Brad
know the law dude. read up on it, if someone punches you then it's legal to kill them with whatever you got, within a reasonable time frame, cops all over make up there own bullshit RULES but theres only one system of Law, and a few new laws implemented allow you to sue cops if they get uppity.

rambo first blood wasnt a documentary

jimmy
01-18-2009, 05:23 AM
Segregation is wrong, no matter who does it.

Brad
01-18-2009, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by Angel
...maybe in South Africa...

for you and kirtan

"it is within the law to use any force necessary including deadly force in any given situation we're you feel you're life, the lives of others or your property is in immediate danger."

i consider myself in danger if a wild monkey breaks into my house looking for a fight.

i can guarantee if anyone ever breaks into your house looking to hurt you wou'll be whimpering in the corner waiting for the police, but they won't save you.

anyone breaks into my house i will make them dead, as quickly as i can make them dead.

my cousin has been relocated to christchurch, i wonder who hes going to attempt to rape and murder next?

jimmy
01-18-2009, 05:52 AM
But you weren't talking about a home invasion, you talked about getting punched. A single punch is not generally a threat to your life.

Angel
01-18-2009, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Brad
for you and kirtan

"it is within the law to use any force necessary including deadly force in any given situation we're you feel you're life, the lives of others or your property is in immediate danger."

Well that clearly wasn't a direct quote copied from anywhere.


Originally posted by Brad
i can guarantee if anyone ever breaks into your house looking to hurt you wou'll be whimpering in the corner waiting for the police, but they won't save you.

Hahahaaa. You clearly know nothing about me.

And like Jimmy said, you were talking about being punched. Once.
I don't think that comes under 'feeling your life is in immediate danger.'

Not That Guy
01-18-2009, 09:23 AM
All that crap only applies in the North Island.
Down here in the south the Maori all think there white.

Dan
01-18-2009, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Angel
Well that clearly wasn't a direct quote copied from anywhere.

Hahahaaa. You clearly know nothing about me.

And like Jimmy said, you were talking about being punched. Once.
I don't think that comes under 'feeling your life is in immediate danger.'

It may be for him, what with him starving himself and all.

Jen
01-18-2009, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Not That Guy
All that crap only applies in the North Island.
Down here in the south the Maori all think there white.

I'm assuming you mean they're as likely to hold jobs as white people, which seemed to be the case when I was staying down there. I had no idea how bad things were in the central north island, which is why I tell people who haven't been up here not to run their mouths about equality.

Angel
01-18-2009, 05:25 PM
And yet both you and Vincent - sorry, BRAD - clearly lump all Maori into the same category, even though you freely admit they're not all like that. And yet Brad says "You haven't met them all" isn't an allowed response.
And THAT'S what annoys me, and THAT is racism. When you apply a racial stereotype to a particular group of people full well knowing that they're not all like that.

Brad
01-18-2009, 06:46 PM
*lol* the majority speaks for the minority. thats the basis of democracy, if you don't like the system why don't you go live in burma.

Not That Guy
01-19-2009, 12:50 AM
Its the minority that speak volumes and the government listen to them and bend over assbackwards to suit them at the detriment of the majority.

Jen
01-19-2009, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Not That Guy
Its the minority that speak volumes and the government listen to them and bend over assbackwards to suit them at the detriment of the majority.

In this case, yes, that's clearly what's happening.

I wonder what would happen if this was put to a vote--New Zealanders of all colour voting on whether "land rights" should extend to kicking people of a certain colour off of beaches. I think the law would fail miserably, with only central North Island Maori supporting it.

Angel
01-19-2009, 02:22 AM
I'd say that would be right.
the foreshore thing has been ongoing for many years. One of the reasons I find this joke so funny...

***

On a beautiful deserted island in the middle of nowhere, the
following people are stranded:

Two Italian men and one Italian woman
Two French men and one French woman
Two German men and one German woman
Two Greek men and one Greek woman
Two English men and one English woman
Two Bulgarian men and one Bulgarian woman
Two Japanese men and one Japanese woman
Two Chinese men and one Chinese woman
Two Irish men and one Irish woman
Two American men and one American woman
Two Maori men and one Maori woman

One month later, on this absolutely stunning deserted island in the
middle of nowhere, the following things have occurred:

One Italian man killed the other Italian man for the Italian woman.

The two French men and the French woman are living happily together in a menage a trois.

The two German men have a strict weekly schedule of alternating visits with the German woman.

The two Greek men are sleeping with each other and the Greek woman is cleaning and cooking for them.

The two English men are waiting for someone to introduce them to the English woman.

The two Bulgarian men took one look at the Bulgarian woman and started swimming to another island.

The two Japanese have faxed Tokyo and are awaiting instructions.

The two Chinese men have set up a pharmacy/liquor store/restaurant/laundry,and have gotten the woman pregnant in order to supply employees for their store.

The two Irish men divided the island into North and South and set up a distillery. They do not remember if sex is in the picture because it got somewhat foggy after a few liters of coconut whiskey. However, they're satisfied because the English aren't having any fun.

The two American men are contemplating suicide, because the American woman will not shut up and complains relentlessly about her body, the true nature of feminism, what the sun is doing to her skin, how she can do anything they can do, the necessity of fulfillment, the equal division of household chores, how sand and palm trees make her look fat, how her last boyfriend respected her opinion and treated her nicer than they do, and how her relationship with her mother is the root cause of all her problems, and why didn't they bring a cell phone so they could call 911 and get them all rescued off this forsaken deserted island in the middle of nowhere so she can get her nails done and go shopping?

One of the Maori men has eaten the other, got the Maori woman pregnant, insisted that the English men provide food, accommodation and education for the child and denied everyone else the right to use the beach and foreshore.

Jen
01-19-2009, 02:27 AM
Mwahahaha, I'd never heard the part about the Maoris. Every time I've heard that joke, they've stopped with the American.

Dan
01-19-2009, 10:45 AM
I'm surprised they aren't demanding assistance from the American guys. Maybe we're too far away.

Brad
01-19-2009, 11:40 AM
the english occupiers hate the americans, if the maoris start asking the americans for help they risk losing there methamphetamine money.

Jen
01-19-2009, 11:43 AM
They're not dark enough for American welfare anyway. They'd be expected to go pick some fruit and make some burgers in exchange for their money.